Not happy about what I am hearing about the transmission date for the new Sherlock in the UK. Not only are they charging people for the preview and doing it where and when a lot of us can’t get (couldn’t they have done a competition or done it for charity or something?). Then we get the actual episode on TV on the night before a lot of us (including me) are going to have to go back to work. The next instalment is a few days later on a Sunday with the same problem.
When is a fan supposed to take time out to consider what they have seen? I am going to have student fans swarming all over me and my library asking me things I can’t answer.
Add to that that I have a few friends in other countries with either net speeds impossible to watch along, or consciences that mean they don’t torrent. This is probably going to mean I step into the breach carrying extra laptops into work to burn discs and having to run very fast to catch the post before 5pm. I will still probably beat the air date in their countries by doing this and we all end up buying the discs anyway. I will be boring you with Sherlock en Francais again - wonder when it airs over there?
OK people … I have been proved right!
My gut feeling was correct and all the funny stuff at St Woolos Cemetery, seemingly spotted last trip? Well now, it looks as if I really was on to something.
I knew that flower urn being there, not there and then suddenly back again was too weird to be un-important.
Oh pleeease …
I know Skyfall followed Sherlock to West Smithfield to film; Crispian the nice security guy there told me all about it when I visited last summer.
Now Sherlock seems to be following Skyfall back out into London. We already know about their shared love of London Underground …
This is getting silly (and Mark Gatiss is obviously a Bond fan and was probably writing this episode when Skyfall came out …)
When you write for two shows it seems to give your characters some identity problems. (And Steven Moffat is still writing his sentences in the shape of three)
I have been entertaining my not-so-well self on the sofa by reading Tumblr entries of fans. With all the excitement going on about the new series they are tying themselves in knots. The Musical Rooftops played out at St Bartholomew’s and the speculations on what that really means? I am laughing out loud in sympathy at the things these people think are actually happening there. West Smithfield’s various roofs, and the sight-lines thereof, are not helpful to anyone with queries who isn’t local. We need Christmas and the airing of the new episode to get everyone out of their misery. The hand rubbing and gleeful chuckling noises of (Two of the) writers got old over eighteen months ago.
I did go back to my store of photos to try and find something from St Woolos shoots to help about the disappearing of Mrs Hudson in the graveyard. I think perspective and gravestones and walking round a clump of vegetation simply is the answer to that.
Then I realised that one of the photos I took on the first visit this year - the Saturday afternoon at the time they shot at, when bf and I visited first, is showing a little more than I thought it was … the following morning the sun was in a different direction and so this didn’t register on my obsessive radar.
(1) is where the original grave was and where Spacefall and I found remains of it when we were looking for it on the Sunday morning visit.
(2) the photo below is one that I took in the afternoon on Saturday, and the way the light is falling seems to show definite removal and replacement of sods of grass. My father suggested someone having ashes buried there (nice idea actually - can I put my name down?) but I suspect something else. The photo seems to show one square removal set centrally at the top (space for a headstone?) and then (the rest of a grave?) moves away at the width of two or even more squares. This would have to be very recent considering the way grass can heal and the amount of rain they get over Wales. We were there in early June in the filming break this year so here am I hoping this is really what I am seeing.
The close up shows the cut edges of the squares of grass very clearly and that was definitely not there in 2012 when BF and I got drenched on our first visits to St Woolos I can assure you. I’ve had the second photo here as my desktop wallpaper since I came home from that trip :
Then things get odder … When Bf and I turned up on the Saturday afternoon this year we both commented on how neat and tidy the part of the cemetery we were visiting looked. We’d been there at exactly the same time last year and it was rather unkempt, with piles of dead grass lying around and it looking at little unloved.
Compare this picture take in over the Golden Jubilee celebration weekend of 2012
With this one, all neat and clipped, taken over the May bank holiday in 2013
Then there was the reappearance of a certain battered flower urn. It was there for all to see in screen in the original scene shot there, gone and nowhere to be seen a year later when visited in 2012, and then back in exactly the place it had been on screen when we returned in 2013. Most odd.
It’s this rather battered metal urn I took a photo of here …
Here it is on screen behind poor Dr Watson as he speaks Sherlock’s eulogy - you can clearly see the dent in the side turned towards John:
No sign of anything at all there in 2012 (and nothing anywhere nearby either - we did a thorough hunt)
Here we are again in May 2013 and it has magically reappeared in exactly the same spot it was in before. Hmmm…
I think you can all see what I am thinking here, and what I am suggesting. All I can say is; I may be proved wrong, but if not I shall cheer and demand another visit to Wales this year. I told BF I am planning a picnic if we get nice weather
More photographic stuff for Scientistofdeduction showing the walk up from our hero’s grave site and why Mrs Hudson seems to disappear.
The long and the short of it is, the pathway makes you zig and zag a bit. Perspective and the type of lens used (playing with the depth of field) squashes everything up a bit too.
For a start, the director sends both actors (both Una and Martin) off the grass between that cross and wonky headstone at an angle to the path. Then on the way up the hill there is a mess of vegetation to be negotiated; it’s climbing all round a gravestone. This is why Mrs Hudson seems to vanish as she walks round it (staying in view at the angle she is walking) but then vanishes as she returns to the normal route up the hill.
I guess it is still a thing for some people to believe the fact that they filmed The Reichenbach Fall using two different roofs at St. Bart’s is all part of a clever conspiracy where the real Sherlock stood on the edge of the second roof and somebody/thing else fell from the first roof as John watched?
Look at the large still from Reichenbach. See the stuff at the right edge of the roof where Sherlock is standing? That’s the same stuff as in the image from Series 2 filming, taken from this fan video.
Sherlock putting John behind the ambulance station (the small brick building) did nothing to block his view of the other roof. John would’ve seen the real Sherlock standing on that ledge if he had been. Before Sherlock even said to keep his eyes fixed anywhere.
Here is the Google Street View as well. Tall buildings > short buildings.
And if you want to argue that Sherlock was standing on a different different roof or hiding or something, please just stop because the only way you kinda-sorta had evidence in the first place was basing everything on the backgrounds of shots that were clearly Benedict on the edge of the real second roof they filmed on.
So, in summary… no.
This sort of thing keeps popping up on my dash. Calm down folks! What I can offer to help is meta-analysis I have posted over on my other blog in the last eighteen months of so.
If you realise they were playing Musical Roofs on filming day (Bart’s various roofs and the sight-lines thereof are not helpful to anyone) and fighting the British Weather (16/17th July 2011 had four seasons in one day) things get a bit clearer.
This entry and the ones following it give a run through of the whole scene with insight from someone local (aka me) who knows the place bloody well. It provides photos taken on location added to help too. It is very, very long however so I will give you a short cut to the best bit.
This part of the entry gives you the nitty gritty about where John was standing and what Martin Freeman really was looking at most of the time (a clue - not actually where you think he was looking)
This other entry (only a two parter) is what you need to read to get your head straightened out about they were doing on that roof. It was more than enough to confuse anyone and Londoners who know what you should really be seeing from up there were even scratching their heads.
This entry has a nice big photo taken from scaffolding across the road in it too.
BF Garienos kindly shows us how they made Mrs Hudson disappear from view when she walked up the path away from Sherlock’s grave. Now you see them, now you don’t, all done with a little camera placement.
- As quarryquest’s photoset illustrates beautifully, there’s no big conspiracy involved in why Mrs. H disappeared behind the tombstone in The Reichenbach Fall. That’s just what happens when you put the camera at a certain angle and send someone walking up the path.
- For the in-story version of this, nobody could’ve kidnapped Mrs. H in that moment because John’s point of view wasn’t the same as the camera’s, and when he turned to leave immediately after Mrs. H “disappeared” he would’ve seen someone dragging her away because he lives in a three-dimensional world.
- I know some people put it down to a crew member dragging Una out of shot, but please think about it.
A) Since being dragged away without John seeing makes no sense as a plot element in three-dimensional space, she didn’t need to disappear. She just needed to walk away like a normal person. Like she did. And it still wasn’t a “clean” shot after the arm (her own arm) “appeared.” Mrs. H still bobbed back and forth behind the gravestone like a normal walking person would before going fully out of sight.
B) They shot this scene with a skeleton crew to keep it all super top-secret. Absolutely minimal staff (wearing short sleeves, no less) and they decided to make it someone’s job to stand perfectly out of sight and drag the septuagenarian off camera?
C) Because HI, Una Stubbs has been working longer than most of her Sherlock costars have been alive. The whole idea that they needed to place someone to yank her into position is, in my opinion, insulting. She’s a pro. Don’t tell me she doesn’t know how to walk where they tell her to walk. It’s nonsense created to explain away an optical illusion.
And I know the people who don’t want to be convinced won’t be, so I guess this post is for the other people and we can all just sit and wait for Series 3 now. *checks watch*
I like that everyone’s so in depth about this (I also like that you’re so positive that you’re right, that you keep saying “just wait for series three when this won’t be in it”)
We’re just exploring the possibility that it COULD be someone. Alot of people aren’t 100% “oh my god there was someone else there” but rather “okay, it looks like someone’s there, what does this mean if there was?”
(My theory was that she knows Sherlock’s alive and that’s Sherlock’s arm, not a kidnapper. But regardless of whether or not there was someone else there, it’s still an interesting thing to play with)
Glad as fuck for a bit of friendly debate about how he survived the fall, let alone this, but then you get people saying “No, you are WRONG” and it spoils it.
Let people have their theories and play them out.
For god’s sakes, not everything in this fandom has to be about being right. So much of Sherlockiana has always been about the fun and the “what if” scenarios, and I think people recently have lost that in their desperation to prove the other person wrong…
I love how everyone has got so much discussion out of this show; me I need to actually touch and see and experience which is why I spend so much time stamping all over the locations. I have a few more photos that might help you in your quest so keep an eye on me and I’ll post them with some explanation.